April 18, 2001
City Hall - 1st Floor
7:00 P.M.
A) CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Vice-Chair Cross at 7:00 P.M.
B) ROLL CALL
Members Present: Vice-Chair Cross,
Hodgson, Anderson, Ostling and Nuttle
Excused: Withrow
Staff Present: Gerry Harsch & Dianne Manore
C). DESIGNATION OF ALTERNATES
Mr. Ostling was designated as alternate
D). APPROVAL OF MINUTES
The minutes of February 21, 2001 were approved as presented
E) APPROVAL OF AGENDA
The Agenda was amended to add an item to new business
F) INQUIRY INTO POTENTIAL CONFLICTS OF INTEREST
None
G) PUBLIC HEARING
1. Case #01-10ZBA - McKenna - 308 Mason
Mr. Dave Kimble, Contractor for the Applicant introduced the
case. The Board discussed the calculations and dimensions shown
in the staff report.
Mr. Nuttle asked if the Applicant agreed with staff's calculation
of lot coverage of 29.54% and 34.5% after adding the proposed
addition/garage. Mr. Kimble agreed with Staff's figures.
Mr. Kimble indicated that the Applicant would like to remove the
existing garage since it is not in compliance and over the adjacent
property line. He would like to get closer to compliance. The
garage has been reduced to minimal size to accomplish this. Mr.
Kimble asked if the Board would like him to answer to the general
and special findings (5.256).
Mr. Nuttle asked the square footage of the garage to be removed.
Ms. Manore pointed out that it is 12.3' x 22.3 without eaves.
Staff indicated that the existing garage was included in the calculations.
Mr. Harsch explained that the five (5) general findings must be
addressed by the Board, as well as the three (3) special findings.
Mr. Kimble addressed the following findings:
1. Not be contrary to the public interest or the general intent
and purpose of this Chapter
He stated that the public interest will be better served by the
Applicant coming into compliance with the existing code.
Ms. Cross pointed out that the ordinance requires a maximum lot
coverage of 30%, which the Applicant will not have. Mr. Kimble
agreed with Staff's figures. Mr. Nuttle pointed out that the lot
coverage would be 34.5%.
Mr. Ostling asked if the Applicant has considered alternate locations
for the garage. Mr. Kimble stated they did consider locating the
garage on the other side of the site. Mr. Ostling stated he visited
the site and considers this plan a good idea. Notwithstanding
the Applicant may have a topographical problem in the rear yard,
it may constrain the Applicant from putting the garage in the
rear of the lot.
Mr. Kimble pointed out that any garage would be an improvement
to what exists.
Ms. Cross stated that a variance for lot coverage is not the only
variance being requested. Ms. Cross read the list of variances
requested.
Ms. Manore explained how the area of the rear yard and existing
structures are calculated to determine "rear yard lot coverage".
Mr. Kimble addressed item #2:
2. Not permit the establishment of a use within a given district
which is prohibited therein
He stated that this request will not change the use and no zoning
changes are being requested.
3. Not be a variance so commonly recurring as to make reasonably
practical the formulation of a general regulation by the City
Council.
He stated the Applicant is not coming back to ask for any more
variances.
4. Not cause substantial adverse effect to properties in the immediate
vicinity or in the zoning district where the variance is located
He stated that the "adverse" condition is what currently
exists on the property, with the existing garage which is on the
adjacent properties.
5. Relate only to the property that is described in the application
for the variance
Mr. Kimble stated this applicant only relates to the property
in question and would remove the garage from the neighbors property.
Mr. Nuttle reviewed Staff's findings. He asked Staff to explain
the difference in the square footage of the structure. Ms. Manore
explained that the 1,656.35 sq. ft. figure refers to the footprint
and the 3,000 and 4,200 sq. ft. figure refers to the actual living
space contained in the existing and proposed structure. This is
a 2 ½ story house. If approved, there would be 4,200 sq.
ft. of living space on a 6,500 sq. ft. lot.
Mr. Kimble stated that there are a lot of 2 ½ story houses
with full basements in this area. This house is not out of character
with the neighborhood.
Mr. Ostling asked if everyone is satisfied with the figures presented.
Ms. Cross pointed out that there is too much coverage for the
lot. Mr. Ostling stated that may be, but is pretty close. Generally
speaking, this garage is an improvement.
Mr. Kimble addressed the "Special
Findings:
1. That there are practical difficulties* or unnecessary hardships**
resulting from the physical characteristics of the property in
question which make it unfeasible to carry out the strict letter
of this Chapter. Increased financial return to the applicant shall
not be considered just cause for a variance based upon hardship.
He stated that the Applicant does not have a garage and would
like one attached to the house. This is the Applicant's main objective.
He has not parked a car in the existing garage for five (5) years.
There is no financial gain relating to this request.
2. That there are exceptional or extraordinary circumstances or
conditions which apply to the property in question that do not
apply to other properties in the vicinity within the same zoning
district and which have not resulted from any act of the applicant
subsequent to the adoption of this Chapter.
Mr. Kimble stated that based on the shape of the lot and the position
of the house on the lot, there is no place to locate a garage
in any other spot.
3. That such variation is necessary for the preservation of a
substantial property right possessed by other properties within
the same zoning district.
Mr. Kimble stated that by removing the nonconforming garage, it
is helping the adjacent property owners.
Mr. Nuttle asked if eliminating the second story above the garage
would change the lot coverage percentage. Staff indicated that
lot coverage is based only on the foot print. If the 12' x 24'
garage was the only structure built, the lot coverage would be
reduces.
Mr. Kimble indicated that the portion of the addition to the rear
of the house is also garage, which would be used for the storage
of garden equipment and snowmobiles.
Mr. Anderson asked if the second story and loft has a bearing
on the lot coverage. Mr. Harsch explained that if only a garage
was added, that garage can extend into the rear yard. This is
not what they are doing. They are adding significant living space.
The footprint also includes the eaves.
Mr. Harsch pointed out that the Applicant agrees with Staff's
figures.
Mr. Nuttle asked if the footprint stays within the ordinance,
the only thing that would stop anyone is the height restrictions
in the ordinance. Mr. Harsch stated that is correct. He stated
that garages can extend into the rear yard. However, we do not
allow living space to extend into the rear yard, as proposed on
the second and third floor. Mr. Nuttle and Mr. Harsch reviewed
the proposed site plan. Mr. Harsch stated the required rear yard
setback is thirty-five (35) feet. He pointed out that the existing
structure is already nonconforming since the house extends out
into the rear yard past the required setback.
The question is whether the rear yard should contain more than
30% of ground coverage, including eaves. Mr. Nuttle pointed out
that the Applicant wants 4.5% more lot coverage. Mr. Harsch stated
this is structure coverage. There are two (2) measurements, one
is a measurement of how the total structure relate to the total
lot. The second relates only to the portion of the structure in
the rear lot and its relation to the rear portion of the lot.
Mr. Harsch explained that in this case, the existing structure
is already nonconforming. The house extends into the front and
rear yard setbacks.
Mr. Nuttle stated the two questions before this Board. Should
a variance be granted for the garage and the living space over
the garage.
Ms. Manore pointed out that if the existing garage were removed,
a 12' x 24' garage could be built behind the house without the
need for a variance. A garage could also be placed in the corner
which could be located 6' from the rear setback and 10' from the
side yard setback.
Mr. Harsch stated that a significant amount of the rear floor
plan calls for space to be used for a furnace, water heater and
stairs, which are not part of the garage.
Mr. McKenna stated that furnace is part of the heated garage.
Mr. Harsch asked if that furnace is just for the garage.
Mr. McKenna stated it would be all the way up, but there would
be some sort of furnace there if it was just for the garage.
Mr. Ostling asked staff for clarification. He stated that the
first floor garage plan does not take up any more space whether
he uses it or not. He read the four requested variances. He stated
that from his perspective, it would be ok this way.
Mr. Harsch explained that the Board must go through the general
and special findings of fact. Ms. Cross pointed out that there
would be more lot coverage than is allowed by the ordinance. Mr.
Ostling stated that is probably true, but that is what the variances
are for. Ms. Cross stated that if there are other alternatives,
they (the Board) cannot grant the variances.
Mr. Harsch stated that if the Applicant only built the garage,
with no living space, he would only need a side yard variance.
Mr. McKenna stated that would be a small garage. He pointed out
that he is trying to get additional storage space. Mr. Harsch
stated the garage could be extended to the rear for more storage
space.
Ms. Cross opened the hearing to public comment.
Mr. Larry Boog, 310 Mason, stated he purchased his house in 1986.
At that time Mrs. Green stated the existing garage would be removed.
Four years ago, Mr. Morrow at 312 Mason received numerous variances
for a garage for his renters. This garage is within three (3)
feet of the property line. He suggested that the garage is currently
on his property line. He pointed out that the renter does not
park in the garage. This garage is being used for Mr. Morrow,
which was not the way the variance request was presented.
Mr. Boog asked why the Applicant is building so high. He pointed
out that variances are not granted for financial gain. He suggested
that the addition above the garage will probably be rented, as
the house is during the summer months. He asked how enforcement
occurs. He agreed that the existing garage needs to be removed.
He stated that he is being crowded on both sides.
He pointed out that there are very few, if any three story houses
on Mason. This house is the largest house on the block. He feels
it would effect the marketability of his property.
Mr. Kimble stated the addition is conforming in height with the
existing structure. He stated that the nonconforming garage setback
is being reduced and not increased, with the demolition of the
existing garage.
Mr. Anderson asked if this property is occupied by the owner.
Mr. Kimble stated it is. Mr. Kimble stated we all have the right
to rent out our house during the summer. Mr. Anderson asked if
the house is occupied by the owner. Mr. Kimble stated it is.
Mr. Harsch stated this property has been used as a rental property.
Mr. McKenna stated that, on an average, the house has been rented
once a year for five years. Mr. Anderson questioned whether this
will be a duplex section on the rear of the property.
Mr. Kimble ensured Mr. Ostling that the property would be surveyed
prior to building. Mr. Ostling pointed out that the addition appears
to be an apartment. Mr. McKenna stated it is for his kids. Originally,
this was a two family residence.
Mr. Boog stated that in the past, he has inquired about renting
this property. He was told it was available by the week and for
weekends.
Mr. McKenna, Owner, stated his neighbor, who he has never met,
did call inquiring about rental rates.
The Board reviewed the general findings. Ms. Cross asked the Board
to vote on Item #1 of the general findings:
1. Not be contrary to the public interest or general intent and
purpose of this Chapter.
Motion by Hodgson, Supported by Anderson
The proposed variance lot coverage represents an overcrowding
of the land and does not meet the conditions set forth in Item
#1 of the general findings.
Ayes: Nuttle, Hodgson, Cross, Ostling and Anderson
Nays: None
Motion CARRIED
Motion by Hodgson Supported by Anderson
to deny the requested variances for Case #01-10ZBA - McKenna on
the basis that general condition #1 has not been satisfied.
Ayes: Hodgson, Cross, Anderson and Nuttle
Nays: Ostling
Motion CARRIED
2. Case #01-16ZBA - Seymour - 629 Petoskey Ave.
Ms. Cross called the case. Mr. Harsch stated that if this
request for a parking variance, the request for a Special Use
Permit will go forward to the Planning Commission.
Staff referred to Section 5.212(4), pointing out that the Board's
guidelines would be whether the Applicant can demonstrate that
the amount of required parking is not required under this circumstance.
However, if the required parking is needed that there is sufficient
area on the property for this parking.
The Board reviewed Sections 5.214(d) and 5.214(a). Based on these
two requirements, the Applicant would need eight (8) spaces. Staff
pointed out that there is sufficient room on this lot for eight
spaces.
Mr. Harsch pointed out that Ms. Seymour resides on this property
and will be the only operator. This would eliminate the need for
a space for an off-site employee. The garage counts for one space.
Mr. Nuttle asked if this variance goes with the land or the business
owner.
Mr. Harsch pointed out that the Board could grant this variance
based on the finding that:
a. The Applicant is the resident/occupant of the building,
b. The Applicant is also the only single operator of this business.
If the Applicant leaves or adds another operator, then this variance
would be void, unless the Board places special conditions to granting
the variance. Another person could purchase this business and
still be the sole operator.
Ms. Seymour pointed out that there is room on the property for
all eight (8) parking spaces. The additional parking spaces would
have to be either stabilized or paved. Due to the added cost,
this is the main reason that the Applicant would like to reduce
the number of spaces. Ms. Seymour stated she may wish to employ
a part time manicurist.
Motion by Anderson Supported by Ostling
to grant a parking variance for Case#01-16ZBA to allow five (5)
parking spaces instead of the required eight (8) spaces, with
the following conditions:
1. That this business remains a one (1) person operation.
2. That there will be five (5) parking spaces
3. In the event that an employee is hired, one (1) parking space
will be added.
Ayes: Cross, Anderson, Ostling, Nuttle and Hodgson
Nays: None
Motion CARRIED
3. Case #01-18ZBA -Powel - Mercer
Mr. Traver Wood, for the Applicant introduced the case. He stated
the Applicant would like to build a two story house on Mercer
Street. He stated that the property immediately off of Mercer
drops dramatically. He calculated that there is a fourteen (14)
foot drop from the edge of Mercer to the ground.
He pointed out that the first floor level would be four (4) feet
below Mercer. At this point we are looking at a two (2) story
home. Of the eight houses on Mercer, seven (7) are two story homes.
From Mercer, this house will look like a 1 ½ story house.
This design is consistent with what exists in the neighborhood.
He stated that similar height variances that have been granted
was for the entire structure. Our height request is only for a
small portion of this structure.
Ms. Cross asked if the structure could be built into the hill.
Mr. Wood stated they are restricted by the setback. Mr. Anderson
asked the height of Mr. Gill's house. Mr. Wood stated this structure
will be lower. Mr. Wood stated there will be huge amounts of fill
required to build this house.
Mr. Harsch stated that there are similar situations with walk-
outs. This is accomplished through the use of "dormer"
windows which lowers the roof level. He pointed out that a residence
on this property could be designed to accomplish that.
Mr. Anderson pointed out that eight (8) feet is a lot to ask for.
Mr. Nuttle asked what will be in the lowest level. Mr. Wood stated
there will be mechanical, storage and living space. Mr. Nuttle
stated this level appears to be a walk-out basement. Mr. Wood
stated that if this is determined to be a basement, there is a
provision for a percentage of the area. The current drawing does
not meet the criteria for a basement.
Mr. Harsch pointed out that the definition of a basement has been
included in the staff report. By the definition, this plan does
not have a basement. Mr. Harsch explained that the square footage
of all the walls would be calculated, with 50%+ of that coverage
to be filled with dirt.
Mr. Harsch stated that once this level qualifies as a basement
there is a provision that allows for an intrusion. This intrusion
allows for the minimum amount of glazing allowed by the building
code. This would allow that amount of open space on this level
which would not qualify for the height measurement.
Mr. Wood indicated the level of additional fill that would create
a "basement" area. Mr. Harsch stated that would not
meet the criteria since he would still have to meet the minimum
requirement for the glazing area.
Mr. Wood stated the BOCA code requires at least 8% of glazing
area. However, the zoning ordinance states the BOCA requirement
of 8% must be met, but that intrusion cannot be over 8%.
Mr. Ostling asked why we require structural obsolescence in order
to maintain the zoning ordinance. The Applicant has a great, this
is not an unreasonable structure. Ms. Cross stated the Board must
address the general and special findings.
Mr. Harsch illustrated the height requirements. The ordinance
requires that if a basement is proposed with living space, glazing
must be included in the plans. The ordinance allows for an intrusion
below grade to the extent that you can have the minimum glazing
without counting the height of the building. If the finished grade
can be wrapped around the building, and accommodate the minimum
glazing area, he would not need a height variance. Another option,
is to lower the roof with dormers. The proposed roof cannot meet
the height requirements.
Mr. Harsch pointed out that this ordinance requires height measurements
to be taken at the lowest finished grade on the site to the mid
point of the roof. If the grade is raised and the minimum glazing
area has been met or the style of roof is changed, a variance
would not be required.
Mr. Anderson pointed out that the house next door is higher. He
suggested that just bringing in additional dirt seems foolish.
Mr. Nuttle expressed concern that if a variance of eight (8) feet
is allowed, then what happens when ten (10) or twelve (12) feet
height variances are requested.
Mr. Wood stated that during the preliminary review, it was his
understanding that he could build this house with additional fill.
Mr. Hodgson pointed out that this is a vacant lot and that anything
could be done with this structure. Ms. Cross suggested that the
Applicant return with a plan that does not need a height variance.
Staff provided the Board with correspondence (see attached)from
the following residents who were opposed to this request and asked
that the Board adhere to the existing zoning requirements.
Jack & Diane Barker, 324 Cherry Street
Charles & Barbara Glueck, Cincinnati, Ohio
Mr. & Mrs. Stilson, 212 Cherry Street
Mr. Hans Tschurtschenthaler, Elm Street
The following correspondence supported the request:
Timothy & Adrienne Ives, 320 Cherry Street
The Board discussed whether this request should be tabled. The
Board reviewed the general and special findings. The Board agreed
that this proposal met all the general findings except
1. Not be contrary to the public interest or the general intent
and purpose of this Chapter
The Board determined that it would
not be contrary to the public interest or general intent of the
ordinance.
2. Not permit the establishment
of a use within a given district which is prohibited therein
The use is one which is allowed in the District.
3. Not be a variance so commonly recurring as to make reasonably
practical the formulation of a general regulation by the City
Council.
The frequency of such requests
having similar circumstances is minimal.
4. Not cause substantial adverse effect to properties in the immediate
vicinity or in the zoning district where the variance is located
The Board agreed that this request
would have an adverse effect on the properties in the immediate
vicinity. Mr. Hodgson addressed the public comment outlined in
the letters of opposition from the surrounding neighbors.
5. Relate only to the property that is described in the application
for the variance
This request relates only to the
property described in the application.
Motion by Hodgson Supported by Nuttle
That general finding #4 has not been met due to the fact that
the requested height variance is excessive. Based on the correspondence
received from the residents in the immediate vicinity, this proposal
would be a substantial adverse effect.
Ayes: Nuttle, Hodgson and Cross
Nays: Ostling and Anderson
Motion CARRIED
Motion by Hodgson Supported by Nuttle
to deny the requested height variance for Case #01-18ZBA based
on the fact that general finding #4 has not be meet because of
the degree of the variance requested and the impact on the surrounding
properties in the immediate vicinity.
Ayes: Nuttle, Hodsgon and Cross
Nays: Ostling and Anderson
Mr. Wood stated they would still like to turn the ground level
into a basement. He reviewed the BOCA requirements and the City's
requirements with Staff. Mr. Harsch stated the intent is to minimize
the intrusion. Mr. Wood suggested that the retaining walls could
be extended to the required height. He pointed to the side elevations
and the proposed glazing area. The question is meeting the BOCA
requirements and the requirements of the City zoning ordinance.
If the plan meets the requirements of the ordinance, the Applicant
will not have to reapply or come back before the Board.
H) OLD BUSINESS
The following D & O's were approved by voice vote, as
presented:
1. D & O's Case #01-05ZBA
- Elzinga
2. D & O Case #01-08ZBA -
DEQ
I) OTHER COMMUNICATIONS
None
J) NEW BUSINESS
The Board agreed to set a special
work session with staff, Board members and Mr. Jim Young, City
Attorney
K). PUBLIC INPUT, NOT RELATED TO OTHER AGENDA ITEMS
None
L). ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at: 9:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Dianne Manore, Zoning Administrator