The meeting was called to order by Mayor
Russell at the above mentioned date and time.
Invocation (Pledge of Allegiance)
Roll Call of Members Present
Council members present: Bill Bellows, Gabe Campbell, Norm Carlson,
Jr. Shirley Gibson and Bill Haggard.
Council members absent: Sherm Chamberlain
DDA members present: Dan Barron, Fred DiMartino, Mary Feindt,
John Kurtz, Hugh Mason, Jeff Porter, and John Taylor
DDA members absent: Jeannine Wallace
Inquiry Regarding Possible Conflicts of Interest
General Business
A. Review and revision by City Council and DDA and possible approval
of design goals for marina side of park plan and general discussion
by public.
Peter Pollack reviewed the proposed goals and objectives dated
August 7, 2002. The beauty of Round Lake and the respect for the
delicate balance of water surface to boat occupancy, marina land-based
support facilities to festival/performance activity needs, and
the view of the entire area from Bridge Street, are important
to the community and are all key to successful change. Citizens
have expressed their desire that touch what we touch very carefully.
There are five major goals. 1) Honor environmental responsibilities
and regulations; 2) Provide facilities and dockage appropriate
for Waterways funding; 3) Recognize functional needs of adjacent
dockage operations; 4) Design using accepted yet inventive engineering
standards; and 5) Integrate water-based facilities with land-based
facilities.
The City Council and DDA received comments on the proposed goals
from the general public. Following is a list of general public
comments on the proposed goals:
Paul Weston feels that private enterprise should not be permitted
in the marina. He also feels that there should be no seasonal
slips in the marina. There are no parking spaces for boaters.
Jim Sell, a former seasonal boater stated that there are only
11 seasonal slips at the marina. These boats pay for a slip whether
they use it or not. If a seasonal boat is out, the Harbormaster
can than rent out the vacant slip. He stated that adjacent City
marinas have a larger percentage of seasonal slips than we do.
A seasonal boater pays for the privilege to be in the marina.
Michael Buttigieg asked if the City has looked at the cost of
refurbishing existing facilities over having new docks built?
What is the cost of upgrading the facility? And what are the proposed
costs to maintain the new facility?
The majority of the audience felt that we should keep what we
have presently, and only refurbish and not install a new facility.
A number of questions were asked, of which were unable to be answered
due to the fact the design of the facility is not completed. The
questions were: What is the cost of maintaining an enlarged facility?
What is the role of the Waterways Commission and its impact upon
day to day marina operations? What type of improvements are needed
in order to qualify for Waterways funding? Is there a number of
docks that must be added to qualify for funding? Should the enlargement
of the marina facilities be a ballot issue? What are the costs
of maintaining floating docks verses fixed docks. Should the City
consider adding moorings, instead of docks?
Mr. Pollack reminded that audience that tonight's meeting is to
establish goals for the design of the marina. The consensus of
the meeting is that we should be modest in the addition of docks
and the length of the docks into Round Lake. The changes to the
seawall should also be at a minimum. After the goals are set,
then proposals for marina improvements will be prepared and presented
in the near future. At the request of the audience, marina layout
marina plans submitted by WATCH, Josh Barnes and Charles Unbehaun
were presented.
Jim Muscell of United Design advised that floating docks are best
in the long term. Fixed piers have concerns with soil stability
and ice.
Mary Nardo of the Waterways Commission stated that their funds
are primarily used for transient dockage. There is a lot of demand
for dockage in Charlevoix's harbor. The funds come from boater's
fees and marina gas taxes. Recently, the City received $500,000
from the Waterways Commission to help purchase the Wharfside property
to expand the park land. Charlevoix's marina facilities are presently
ranked low in boater surveys. Waterways funding will not be available
until 2005. In order to be considered for funding in 2005, the
City must receive a permit to build the facility before Waterways
funding will be considered. If only improvements for the landside
of the park were submitted to the Waterways, than its participation
will be limited.
Jerry Puhl stated that the community is against changing Round
Lake and large dock extensions. The community just spent over
$ 1 million to improve the view, we shouldn't consider placing
any buildings which would block views. He also supports Mr. Barnes
bulkhead proposal.
Bill Coen stated that Charlevoix has reputation that it is impossible
to get a slip here. If we want more boaters and their money, we
need more slips. Would the community desire the marina to be in
Lake Michigan?
Comments were made on the pros and cons of setting the guidelines.
Mr. Pollack stated that changes in the park are necessary, the
comments received from the audience re not to do anything and
that is not possible. We are striving to hold the public meetings
when the majority of the community is here. (i.e. not in the Winter
months) If the goals are appropriate, then we can discuss what
to fix and to what degree. The City Council and the DDA are to
be part of the decision process. Our goal is to have the next
public meeting to review preliminary plans on August 29th.
The public comment section of the meeting was closed.
Mary Nardo of the Waterways Commission stated that the DEQ and
the Corps of Engineers will determine what changes will be permitted
along the waterfront. But they (the DEQ and Corps) have strong
reservations of land areas being cut away and other areas filled
to create a straighten bulkhead. They will consider minor trimming
of the points. They are sensitive that the shoreline be maintained.
Josh Barnes stated we should have a marina goal that provides
for the dock facility not sticking out a great deal further than
the existing facility.
Dan Barron asked if representatives of the DEQ could attend the
next meeting.
The Mayor asked members of the City Council and the DDA if every
one agrees that we are on the right track? There was no comment.
Adjourn
It was generally agreed to adjourned.
Meeting adjourned at 9:15 p.m.